Magnanimo seemed to be doing it with smoke and mirrors out there. She doesn't have overpowering stuff and seemed to have runners on every inning but always managed to wriggle out of trouble. I'm thinking she can't go three straight days though, can she? I like our chances against them.
I built a city that stabilized at a population of about 160,000 but I can no longer acquire more land tiles. I was really counting on further expansion. I was hoping there was a mod for that, but I couldn't find a reliable one. I think the new one actually allows for larger land areas.
EA Sports NCAA Football 2014. Mostly that. I also like City Skylines and may get the new version after my semester is over. I recently bought a PC tank game that simulates WWII battles that I can't remember the name of and haven't played yet. Waiting till the semester finally ends. It's highly rated, so I'm looking forward to it.
I appreciate that we are having a civil discussion on this. Note that I am critiquing your argument not you.
That being said, your argument is very flawed. The reason is the power of discourse both to humanize and to dehumanize. Concerning the former, Harlem Renaissance poets, for example, used the arts to humanize African-Americans as a counter to the overwhelmingly negative presentation of Black people in the media up to and past the twenties and thirties. Check out the documentary Ethnic Notions (https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/ethnic-notions-0) for an understanding of just how pervasive those presentations were. That fact the many were intended as 'humor' did nothing to negate the effects of those presentations, as white people viewing them tended to believe that such presentations were accurate portrayalsand that the people portrayed deserved to be mocked. Thus the effect of the humor was the dehumanization of an ethnic group regardless of intent.
Look to Nazi Germany, or any genocidal society, for the way discourse can be used to dehumanize. The Holocaust didn't just happen one day out of the blue. The seeds were planted by a decade of antisemitic media presentations meant to dehumanize Jews in the view of the German public who had long accepted them as fellow Germans. Dehumanization counters the natural sense of empathy we have for others--reducing people to stereotypes is the necessary groundwork needed before engaging in the atrocity. These are the stakes we're talking about about. If the 'joke' is indistinguishable from something a bigot or a racist or a misogynist would say then the designation of that statement as a joke, and the very idea of the joke as some safe space free from criticism, is reduced to an absurdity. The 'joke' has the same effect as the bigoted remark, as noted above. And an actual bigot can claim that such a remark is a joke to escape a negative response.
Here's a practical example: The Simpsons. I love that show! I loved the Apu character as voiced by Hank Azaria. When I heard about issues about Apu from Indian-Americans, I was ready to call bullshit on that. But then I read about it from a different perspective, that of an Indian-American kid in school having other kids running up and saying "Do the Apu voice" or doing it themselves. Because whatever Azaria's intentions are, it is a poor imitation that doesn't sound like an Indian-American to an Indian-American. The fact that the kids running up think they're being funny doesn't change the fact that the hearer is reduced to that stereotype and dehumanized in the process.
PC as some nefarious bid for "control" is, frankly, complete nonsense. That all these supposedly cancelled people get on nationally broadcast talk shows to complain about being cancelled is rich. How are you cancelled if you're on television complaining about being cancelled? I mean, yeah, many sex pervs have been cancelled for being sex pervs like Louis CK. Whatever Michael Richards was doing on stage was a psychotic break, not a joke. Dave Chappelle hasn't been cancelled. He's got a new thing on Netflix. I never said the Brady Roast should be cancelled. I just said I'm not watching it. I also don't believe that saying "it's just a joke" is a magic shield against any and all criticism over the remark in question. Because the right to free speech that gives you the right to say it gives me the right to comment on it. And if Carlin were here today, I'd say the same thing to him.
Anyway, I'm supposed to be grading student essays. This was a fun way to procrastinate but back to it.
Even worse, he seems to be some sort of new age-crypto lifestyle guru. The bracelets his company sells, and he gave away in C-bus, are a part of the lifestyle guru thing. As is group singing to manifest good things.
To be honest, I don't care about the roast and watching it is a hard pass. I was a child in the 70s, the golden age of celebrity roasts, and I didn't think they were funny then. They're the perfect venue for the insult comic, and I generally don't like that type of comic (though, yeah, I will admit to enjoying and joining in on a sweet MGoBlog pile-on when a poster has truly earned it). I was commenting on your use of that Carlin meme which, as I've attempted to argue, is taken out of context. The comment you offered with the clip points to that lack of context.
Also, with respect to Chappelle, I meant attack with words. To demean or insult someone's identity with words without offering any redeeming context is an attack, whether you call it joke or say it with a noose in your hands.
See, now there all you heard were the bad words and completely missed the context--which is the very point Carlin is making. He's asserting a very valid point about a problem of language policing--that this practice can mask the continued existence of the underlying bigoted attitudes they represent. He doesn't actually mock any group here.
There is still a big difference between Blazing Saddles, which employs stereotypes and the n-word in order to demonstrate how bullshit the beliefs behind those stereotypes are, and Dave Chappelle attacking trans people, a community suffering from high suicide rates and the constant threat of physical violence.
Comedy is an art form where all people, no matter what, can be the subject and object to a joke.
But not Robert Kraft though! The rich and powerful owner of the Patriots and...Gillette I think(?) was off-limits right? And there were other banned subjects. Again, that's what punching downward is. All groups except carefully selected rich and powerful white people can be mocked is not Carlin's message now is it?
Show me one instance though of George Carlin mocking "gays, obese, blacks, mentally challenged." You probably can't, because Carlin wasn't a hack insult comic--he spoke truth to power. THAT'S what comedy can do and should be. Mocking "gays, obese, blacks, mentally challenged" but god-forbid you say a peep about Bob Kraft's love for happy-ending messages is pretty much the opposite. That's a bunch of lazy comics punching downward.
Yankee fan here. Pitching hungover was a regular day at the office for Wells as was hanging out at Scores, a notorious mob-controlled high end strip club. For real thrills, I offer Dock Ellis, who pitched a no hitter on LSD. THAT'S getting it done.
I loved running on that track because it always brought me past the plaque. And with that the reminder that Jesse Owens had run on that very same track. It's sacred ground.
42-27, you're forgetting the Warde Rules: When something good happens for our programs Manuel had nothing to do with it ("At least he didn't screw it up"). When something bad happens it's all Manuel's fault ("Fire Warde!"). Does it make sense? No, but the Warde haterz are comfortable with the contradiction for whatever reason.
My idea is to rob banks, use the money to buy coke, sell that coke, and use the proceeds to fund an NIL. The hold-up in getting started is, of course, Warde Manuel. The problem, he claims, is that my plan is "transactional not transformational" in addition to being "very extremely illegal." Come on, Warde. The Tigers are playing...tonight! And I never miss a game.
Wow, that was quite a read. I read the address and had a hard time believing that wasn't an Onion bit. The bitcoin shout-outs, the multiple sing-alongs, quoting Ram Dass of all people but misspelling his last name in the text. The meandering senseless incomprehensibility of it all. Things like this:
For emotional freedom, I stumbled into singing as a wellness practice after I went through a terrible heartbreak. Every morning, I felt so much sadness and pain. I considered taking antidepressants, but intuitively just started singing each morning. I’m not a trained singer but used it as a musical therapy. I later learned that singing stimulates the amygdala where we store emotions. It’s a powerful way to release negative energy stuck in the body.
And singing is also powerful for manifesting - “what we sing about we bring about.” Search “The Singing Revolution” and you’ll see how Latvia, Lithuanian, and Estonia got their independence through group singing in the late 80s!
And this:
Three blind men touch an elephant. The first says “it’s a snake! The second argues “no it’s a wall!” The third rebuts, “no it’s a rope!” None of them are wrong, but their perspectives are limited.
Dude, all three are wrong--BECAUSE IT'S AN ELEPHANT.
I'd need brain-melting South American psychedelics just to get through listening to all that.
Costales strikes out and there is no joy in Mudville today. However, this was a great turnaround season by Bonnie Tholl and the Michigan women. On to the B1G tournament and, hopefully, the NCAAs...
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Magnanimo seemed to be doing it with smoke and mirrors out there. She doesn't have overpowering stuff and seemed to have runners on every inning but always managed to wriggle out of trouble. I'm thinking she can't go three straight days though, can she? I like our chances against them.
RPI! From hell's heart, I stab at thee!!
Outstanding post, OP. This is the terrific user content I'm also here for.
I built a city that stabilized at a population of about 160,000 but I can no longer acquire more land tiles. I was really counting on further expansion. I was hoping there was a mod for that, but I couldn't find a reliable one. I think the new one actually allows for larger land areas.
And an upvote to you in return.
This should be enough for the NCAAs. Great win!
EA Sports NCAA Football 2014. Mostly that. I also like City Skylines and may get the new version after my semester is over. I recently bought a PC tank game that simulates WWII battles that I can't remember the name of and haven't played yet. Waiting till the semester finally ends. It's highly rated, so I'm looking forward to it.
I appreciate that we are having a civil discussion on this. Note that I am critiquing your argument not you.
That being said, your argument is very flawed. The reason is the power of discourse both to humanize and to dehumanize. Concerning the former, Harlem Renaissance poets, for example, used the arts to humanize African-Americans as a counter to the overwhelmingly negative presentation of Black people in the media up to and past the twenties and thirties. Check out the documentary Ethnic Notions (https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/ethnic-notions-0) for an understanding of just how pervasive those presentations were. That fact the many were intended as 'humor' did nothing to negate the effects of those presentations, as white people viewing them tended to believe that such presentations were accurate portrayals and that the people portrayed deserved to be mocked. Thus the effect of the humor was the dehumanization of an ethnic group regardless of intent.
Look to Nazi Germany, or any genocidal society, for the way discourse can be used to dehumanize. The Holocaust didn't just happen one day out of the blue. The seeds were planted by a decade of antisemitic media presentations meant to dehumanize Jews in the view of the German public who had long accepted them as fellow Germans. Dehumanization counters the natural sense of empathy we have for others--reducing people to stereotypes is the necessary groundwork needed before engaging in the atrocity. These are the stakes we're talking about about. If the 'joke' is indistinguishable from something a bigot or a racist or a misogynist would say then the designation of that statement as a joke, and the very idea of the joke as some safe space free from criticism, is reduced to an absurdity. The 'joke' has the same effect as the bigoted remark, as noted above. And an actual bigot can claim that such a remark is a joke to escape a negative response.
Here's a practical example: The Simpsons. I love that show! I loved the Apu character as voiced by Hank Azaria. When I heard about issues about Apu from Indian-Americans, I was ready to call bullshit on that. But then I read about it from a different perspective, that of an Indian-American kid in school having other kids running up and saying "Do the Apu voice" or doing it themselves. Because whatever Azaria's intentions are, it is a poor imitation that doesn't sound like an Indian-American to an Indian-American. The fact that the kids running up think they're being funny doesn't change the fact that the hearer is reduced to that stereotype and dehumanized in the process.
PC as some nefarious bid for "control" is, frankly, complete nonsense. That all these supposedly cancelled people get on nationally broadcast talk shows to complain about being cancelled is rich. How are you cancelled if you're on television complaining about being cancelled? I mean, yeah, many sex pervs have been cancelled for being sex pervs like Louis CK. Whatever Michael Richards was doing on stage was a psychotic break, not a joke. Dave Chappelle hasn't been cancelled. He's got a new thing on Netflix. I never said the Brady Roast should be cancelled. I just said I'm not watching it. I also don't believe that saying "it's just a joke" is a magic shield against any and all criticism over the remark in question. Because the right to free speech that gives you the right to say it gives me the right to comment on it. And if Carlin were here today, I'd say the same thing to him.
Anyway, I'm supposed to be grading student essays. This was a fun way to procrastinate but back to it.
I mean, hey, I'm interested in trying some for reasons that are not Aaron Rodgers.
Even worse, he seems to be some sort of new age-crypto lifestyle guru. The bracelets his company sells, and he gave away in C-bus, are a part of the lifestyle guru thing. As is group singing to manifest good things.
To be honest, I don't care about the roast and watching it is a hard pass. I was a child in the 70s, the golden age of celebrity roasts, and I didn't think they were funny then. They're the perfect venue for the insult comic, and I generally don't like that type of comic (though, yeah, I will admit to enjoying and joining in on a sweet MGoBlog pile-on when a poster has truly earned it). I was commenting on your use of that Carlin meme which, as I've attempted to argue, is taken out of context. The comment you offered with the clip points to that lack of context.
Also, with respect to Chappelle, I meant attack with words. To demean or insult someone's identity with words without offering any redeeming context is an attack, whether you call it joke or say it with a noose in your hands.
See, now there all you heard were the bad words and completely missed the context--which is the very point Carlin is making. He's asserting a very valid point about a problem of language policing--that this practice can mask the continued existence of the underlying bigoted attitudes they represent. He doesn't actually mock any group here.
There is still a big difference between Blazing Saddles, which employs stereotypes and the n-word in order to demonstrate how bullshit the beliefs behind those stereotypes are, and Dave Chappelle attacking trans people, a community suffering from high suicide rates and the constant threat of physical violence.
But not Robert Kraft though! The rich and powerful owner of the Patriots and...Gillette I think(?) was off-limits right? And there were other banned subjects. Again, that's what punching downward is. All groups except carefully selected rich and powerful white people can be mocked is not Carlin's message now is it?
I'm guessing the OP is really really into Andrew Dice Clay. That's really the level we're operating at here.
Show me one instance though of George Carlin mocking "gays, obese, blacks, mentally challenged." You probably can't, because Carlin wasn't a hack insult comic--he spoke truth to power. THAT'S what comedy can do and should be. Mocking "gays, obese, blacks, mentally challenged" but god-forbid you say a peep about Bob Kraft's love for happy-ending messages is pretty much the opposite. That's a bunch of lazy comics punching downward.
Yankee fan here. Pitching hungover was a regular day at the office for Wells as was hanging out at Scores, a notorious mob-controlled high end strip club. For real thrills, I offer Dock Ellis, who pitched a no hitter on LSD. THAT'S getting it done.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/30/dock-ellis-lsd-no-hitter-pittsburgh-pirates-baseball
Let's not go there. Mock the speaker not the poor soul who committed suicide.
Yeah, I riffed on the drug thing when it was originally posted.
That would be a normal football scuffle for a game between the Hell's Angels and the Banditos. Not for a college team or a pro team.
uofmchris2: "Hold this..."
That was post #2.
Grampy was there in Berlin in 1936 to witness it.
Are we getting a new post about this every time someone watches it?
Bunches of Funchess.
Yes. He signed a pro basketball contract. He also had 2,265 receiving yards as a pro.
And he only dances cheek to cheek...
I loved running on that track because it always brought me past the plaque. And with that the reminder that Jesse Owens had run on that very same track. It's sacred ground.
I'll second Kim Deal. There is no Pixies without her, and I can't imagine a world without the Pixies.
But I know sweet shit-all about fuck at all times. Me.
42-27, you're forgetting the Warde Rules: When something good happens for our programs Manuel had nothing to do with it ("At least he didn't screw it up"). When something bad happens it's all Manuel's fault ("Fire Warde!"). Does it make sense? No, but the Warde haterz are comfortable with the contradiction for whatever reason.
My idea is to rob banks, use the money to buy coke, sell that coke, and use the proceeds to fund an NIL. The hold-up in getting started is, of course, Warde Manuel. The problem, he claims, is that my plan is "transactional not transformational" in addition to being "very extremely illegal." Come on, Warde. The Tigers are playing...tonight! And I never miss a game.
Let's see Netflix try to make a movie out of that.
Me, Clarence Boddicker. And in that one minute believe that I will go hard in the paint. Just like the song says...
What would Jesus do?
Jesus would release the kid from his NIL because his favorite coach left, St. Mary's.
Fuck DeBeers. Gifting an Orji to your sweetie will become the hot new thing in romance.
So glad my Yankees don't do city connect uniforms. They are trash
Wow, that was quite a read. I read the address and had a hard time believing that wasn't an Onion bit. The bitcoin shout-outs, the multiple sing-alongs, quoting Ram Dass of all people but misspelling his last name in the text. The meandering senseless incomprehensibility of it all. Things like this:
For emotional freedom, I stumbled into singing as a wellness practice after I went through a terrible heartbreak. Every morning, I felt so much sadness and pain. I considered taking antidepressants, but intuitively just started singing each morning. I’m not a trained singer but used it as a musical therapy. I later learned that singing stimulates the amygdala where we store emotions. It’s a powerful way to release negative energy stuck in the body.
And singing is also powerful for manifesting - “what we sing about we bring about.” Search “The Singing Revolution” and you’ll see how Latvia, Lithuanian, and Estonia got their independence through group singing in the late 80s!
And this:
Three blind men touch an elephant. The first says “it’s a snake! The second argues “no it’s a wall!” The third rebuts, “no it’s a rope!” None of them are wrong, but their perspectives are limited.
Dude, all three are wrong--BECAUSE IT'S AN ELEPHANT.
I'd need brain-melting South American psychedelics just to get through listening to all that.
Same here.
It's the rope-a-dope! Go Blue! Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!
Hell yeah. Bring back the gold to A2!
It's in loving memory of all the times you posted this! A lot of times...
Fuck psu and all their joepa-loving delusional fans!!!*
*In loving memory of East German Judge.
Far more content than my earlier post. Excellent work on this as usual, Solecismic!
Costales strikes out and there is no joy in Mudville today. However, this was a great turnaround season by Bonnie Tholl and the Michigan women. On to the B1G tournament and, hopefully, the NCAAs...
Ava Costales is up.
Two outs--runners on second and third.
Strong drive to the hoop.
Great post...except that side note was a bit weird, kid.
Anyway, the Michigan - Magic connection is sweet, but I'm a Knick fan for life. Say go New York, go New York, go!