Saturday night games ?

Submitted by WVWolverine on May 8th, 2024 at 3:17 PM

I’ve been seeing these Saturday night posts on social media. Anyone know which game(s) are Saturday night?  I would guess Michigan State and/or USC.

 

mGrowOld

May 8th, 2024 at 3:26 PM ^

Game times with the exception of the Texas game (big noon on Fox) have not been released yet so anything you see on X (formally Twitter) is just somebody's wild-ass-guess as to when the game will be played.

Nobody knows sweet fuck-all about shit right now.  Nobody.

Amazinblu

May 8th, 2024 at 3:28 PM ^

Here's the home schedule... let's see...

  • August 31st: Fresno State 
  • September 7th: Texas - Big Noon - already announced
  • September 14th: Arkansas State
  • September 21st: USC - possible night game
  • September 28th: Minnesota
  • October 26th: Michigan State
  • November 2nd: Oregon - possible night game
  • November 23rd: Northwestern

Sione For Prez

May 8th, 2024 at 4:36 PM ^

With the exception of Texas as already announced. Any one of those remaining games could  be at night. Obviously marquee games like MSU, USC, Oregon would be great.

Since the actual game being played no longer matters for determining time slot and BTN always gives us a shit game at night Fresno, Arkansas St, and Minnesota are all very real possibilities there. 

I believe they got rid of the rule about not having any night games after first weekend in Nov so technically NW could be at night as well. 

NittanyFan

May 8th, 2024 at 3:51 PM ^

Today is the day the networks (FOX, CBS, NBC) are having their "draft" as to which weeks they get first pick of B1G game.

The "rules" of the draft: FOX has the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks ... then the order is either CBS/NBC/FOX or NBC/CBS/FOX for all weeks following.

I'm sure some leaks will come out eventually.  But about all we can safely say for now:

  • FOX will definitely choose Weeks 2 and Week 14 among their first 3 picks.  And elect to show Texas @ Michigan (already announced) and Michigan @ Ohio State at Noon both weeks.
  • FOX's 3rd week?  Can't say for certain.  But it's probably either Week 3 (Alabama @ Wisconsin), Week 4 (USC @ Michigan) or Week 10 (several pretty good B1G games, but not sure at this point which one will be better).
  • If FOX chooses Week 4, then USC will undoubtedly be a Noon game.  If FOX doesn't choose Week 4, then USC will very likely be either a 3:30 game (if CBS gets it) or a 7:30 game (if NBC gets it).
  • In other words ----- I just told you that "USC @ Michigan" could be at either Noon, 3:30 or 7:30.  E.g., I broke no news.  :-)
  • Beyond that ...... who the heck knows.  We'll just have to wait for the leaks.

Sione For Prez

May 8th, 2024 at 4:44 PM ^

Nittany you might know better than I, but with the new deal is Fox contractually obligated to put their marquee matchups at noon? Otherwise I could very easily see them wanting that OSU & Oregon game in mid October and just shoving it at 4 or night (I also didn't look up MLB playoff potential conflicts).

Otherwise I'm sure the OSU @ PSU game on Nov 2 will also be a contender. Although it loses some broadcast juice with that game being at noon instead of late afternoon or night. 

NittanyFan

May 8th, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

I don't think they're contractually obligated.  There were 3 weeks last year where FOX had a 3:30 B1G game and no Noon B1G game.  Week 5 (U-M/Nebraska) was one of them.

But I think it's going to be significantly more rare.  Last year, CBS only had rights to broadcast 7 B1G games and they still had the SEC package.  So they had only had 2 3:30 B1G games (1 was UNLV/Michigan).  This year, CBS has rights to broadcast 15 B1G games and of course the SEC package is gone.  So they're almost always going to have a 3:30 game now.

Add that to NBC having a nearly weekly prime-time B1G game --- and FOX would basically have* to have a Noon game to avoid competing against the other networks.

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*CBS/FOX could theoretically flip-flop: a CBS game at Noon & FOX at 3:30.  But it would have to theoretically benefit both networks.  It's tough to imagine too many scenarios like that.  CBS wouldn't want to be completely dark at 3:30, and they have no other rights besides the Mountain West.  The Big XII losing UT & Oklahoma makes it a lot tougher for FOX to put a great Big XII game at Noon and a B1G game at 3:30. 

Amazinblu

May 8th, 2024 at 5:07 PM ^

I would believe that if Penn State "had their choice" - that the November 2nd game - PSU hosting OSU - would be a night game - "White Out" - etc..    But, what say does any team / athletic department have in determing the kickoff time for a game?

It seems like - "very little to none".

NittanyFan

May 8th, 2024 at 5:15 PM ^

PSU is getting ZERO say on game time for OSU.  Whatever network gets 1st pick of games that week - they are going to have a number of theoretically good games (including Oregon @ Michigan) to choose between and they're going to wait to see how the season plays out.  They won't choose before late October.

It is what it is.  I think the "officially branded PSU WhiteOut" (TM) is a bit played out, given folks wear white to basically EVERY PSU home game.  But PSU wants to have an annual WhiteOut (TM) game, they want the WhiteOut (TM) at night and they want to preannounce the WhiteOut (TM).  So I'd guess, much like 2022 & 2023, the WhiteOut (TM) will be a more "mid" game (like UCLA/PSU) where none of the networks particularly care if it's preannounced for 7:30.

That's a long way of answering your question --- the schools don't have much say anymore.

Amazinblu

May 8th, 2024 at 5:34 PM ^

NF - thanks.   

My personal view is - it’s so unfortunate.  The White Out (TM) creates a significant advantage for PSU - and, you want / need that advantage when you can capitalize on it.   

I’m too idealistic - and - wish for those “days of yore”.  The media dollars drive it all.

COLBlue

May 8th, 2024 at 5:51 PM ^

Honestly, I would love to see that network draft and some of the reactions...

From https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-plotting-in-big-ten-pac-12

"Retired Fox Sports Network President Bob Thompson likened the process to a game of “three-dimensional chess.”

Ohio State at Oregon? USC at Michigan? Michigan-Ohio State? Washington at Penn State?...

Said Thompson: “Fox has the first pick and it will be Ohio State-Michigan. Always has been, always will be.”

bklein09

May 9th, 2024 at 12:47 AM ^

I believe Fox has openly stated that they will not choose games played on the West Coast for B1G Noon. 

I think it’s pretty safe to say the @UDub game will be either 330pm ET on CBS or 730pm ET on NBC. Very outside chance it could be a late night 1030pm ET kick, but doubtful. 

I’ll be there with 17 other Wolverines! Already have my tickets lined up! 

WVWolverine

May 8th, 2024 at 6:35 PM ^

hahahaha - your screen name triggers me lol...  I can remember when I use to just blurt out FUCK Jim Tressel anytime I heard his name.  no matter if it was on TV, the radio, or in conversation.  as soon as his name came out - FUCK Jim Tressel.  I can say that (for some reason) I hated him more than Urban Meyer and Ryan Day

Qmatic

May 8th, 2024 at 6:42 PM ^

Best way to guess the kickoff time for one of our games:

  1. Check every B1G team’s gam for the week. If we are in the best game or at least within the top 3, expect that we will be at noon on Fox. 
  2. If we are the second best game and play away, we will be playing a night game.
  3. Don’t expect 3:30 games.

Qmatic

May 8th, 2024 at 8:15 PM ^

Oh I did not realize they had expanded rights this year. They had such sporadic coverage of B1G last year (I believe they only did the UNLV game for us last year).

I am excited then for that. I think CBS’ overall production is pretty good. Fox when on B1G Noon is great (polarizing view I know), but their side by side replays and overall speed they do replays is the best. Also Klatt’s analysis is the best of any color commentator in the business. I was not at all impressed with NBC last year.

Dean Pelton

May 8th, 2024 at 10:16 PM ^

You can all thank Kevin Warren for all the TV bullshit fuckery. He fixed the 2021 Staee game and then basically didn’t give a shit what happened after that and left in the middle of negotiations for the new TV deal. 

Amazinblu

May 9th, 2024 at 10:02 AM ^

Are you suggesting that Kevin Warren should have told his son … “I’m glad you enjoy playing football - but, with my role in the B1G conference - it would be better if you transferred to a school that was not in the B1G to avoid any perception of a conflict of interest.”

Yeah.. that would be logical - reflecting intelligence and sportsmanship.  That’s probably why it never occurred to Warren to say.

Amazinblu

May 9th, 2024 at 9:58 AM ^

Do you have a preference for kickoff times?

I enjoy tailgating - a lot.  We’re in the lot and setting up as soon as the lot opens - so, depending on kickoff time - it could be a long day.

3:30 starts - especially in September - are fantastic. A long day of tailgating - warm weather - and, time after the game to continue the festivities - let the traffic die down - and enjoy it with a bit of evening sunshine and comfortable temperatures.  Night games in September can be fun too.. though, the post game festivities really don’t take place.

Mid-October and later.. my preference is… “not night”… noon / 3:30’s give plenty of time to enjoy everything.

For the West Coast matchups - It seems to me that 3:30 pm EDT kickoffs make the most sense - for players and fans.   It will be interesting to see what actually happens.

M-Dog

May 9th, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^

3:30 is the sweet spot.  It's perfect.  It leaves plenty of time for tailgating / pregaming, while allowing you to get home before midnight.  It's getting dark when the games end, so there is a bit of a night game feel as well.

We used to have lots of these games, but we have had very few recently.  I hope that CBS fixes this.  The 3:30 SEC games on CBS were always a highlight on Saturdays.  I'm sure that CBS would like to keep that going.