Wait but i thought we all complained about not passing enough even though we won the national championship on an undefeated season dont we all agree the coaches should have passed more????
could not play in the mold of a wing, at least on offense
Yes, exactly . The positions are more important on defense, on offense there's nothing stopping you from having a 7'0 player run the point if he has the ball handling skills.
On defense, you can't play someone at a position they can't guard, the offense will easily find the mismatch.
We won the fucking natty undefeated season and you're disappointed??? Like if we passed more we achieve what exactly?? Win the natty by more than 3 tds???
Like maybe you don't understand football as well as Harbaugh (a former nfl QB) and you overvalue passing?? Is that possible or sre you certain you understand run-pass balance better than Harbaugh??
We dont need top wide receivers we're a run first offense, we won the natty last year that way. Our new HC is our former OL coach.
Are we still gonna keep bitching about not giving enough targets to recruit elite receivers??
Sorry didn't mean to latch on to your comment but im still mad about getting negbanged every single time i wrote i dont care about passing more and then we won the national fucking championship playing like that and people still dont understand that running it so much is a feature not a bug.
I mean i guess it's strange that it isn't obvious to everyone. Yes he didn't throw often, but his third down rating is excellent, and he was on national TV making great throws on huge game deciding plays.
I think it's more about blocking schemes, but idk not an expert at all. I think the nfl just does like a lot more guard pulling and maneuvers and stuff on the offensive line, while college teams tend to keep it simpler.
Yeah i love CJ as a player, but for the NFL his athleticism is average unfortunately and that tanks his draft status. (Apparently a 4.4 40 doesnt do anything for NFL scouts)
Still, I agree with you, I think he'll have a very long productive career as a WR2. Reminds me of donald driver, CJ is actually bigger than Driver, but yeah a good solid receiver that does everything well every play even if not elite in any one aspect of the position. Driver was a 7th round pick.
Howard was just straight up bad at roster construction XD. Like the average guy off the street would have a better idea of getting a good spread of players to play all 5 positions and complement each other's playstyle. Howard was just getting kids he got along with personally without concern for the fact we didnt have enough guards.
It's looking like it could be like Beilein's teams with good passers at every position playing beautifully orchestrated offense with a solid defense to back it up.
I'm guessing May's offense is probably different in the Xs and Os than Beilein's but if he shares that obsession with emphasis and good passing and fundamentals that would make me very happy.
With Howard it felt like he was going for 90s style isoball and besides the results, the style of play was not very enticing. And defense idk what they thought they were trying to achieve.
Just make a comment next time and take your handful of downvotes for saying something stupid before making a post and getting negbanged so hard you have to make a new account.
Kia forte, idk i just want a reliable car with good gas mileage. Rio is okay but just a little bit too small and low clearance for driving on Michigan roads.
Orji cannot reliably make wide open throws. He's not the guy to carry the QB role in most games. There will be two or three games against teams with miserable defensive lines that Orji will be able to abuse, but most games Davis will be better.
Exactly! McCarthy is a complete QB, throws, runs, can do it all. And what was he asked to do 90% of the time? Take care of the football. Yes, some big third/fourth downs we needed him to take a shot and he succeeded, but the most important thing is to take care of the football and give the run game and defense a chance to win the game without QB heroics. Then, if you need it because the opponent os playing excellent, you tell the QB to make something happen.
Orji is not going to be that guy for us. It's either Davis or potentially Tuttle depending how he recovers from injury.
We had a coaching change, could have been smoother but idk not worried about it. Recruiting will catch up im sure. Im also sure some of those ohio recruits will recommit. Things tend to even out in recruiting, a huge early lead in recruiting doesn't mean much.
Yeah idk, like yes rose bowl win was great but we didn't play our best game at all and alabama couldn't snap the ball. It has to be 4/5 along eith the Washington game where we did play our best game but Washington just folded.
And then yeah it's fucking ohio fuck them I'll take 1-11 with a win over ohio every season.
At the same time, innate accuracy is something you kinda have or don't by the time you get to college.
Camp is about ironing out the high level details you didn't see in high school, not relearning how to throw an accurate ball.
And not to be a downer, but to me it sounds like Tuttle is still in pole position to be QB1 by the time September comes. We need a QB with accuracy and wisdom/poise above all else IMHO. Just doesn't sound like Orji will be better than Tuttle at winning football games, not that we couldn't win the conference with either perhaps.
We wont burn any scholarships, we're not getting 13 scholarship worthy players in one off season, it just aint happening. Hell we had two scholarship spots open last year.
Only thing I'll say is that no QB in the draft is ready to start. There rarely ever are any QBs ready to start as rookies.
Scouts are all looking at which QBs have the best chance of growing into a great NFL QB. It's not so important who looks the best or is the best right now.
Difference is Stroud would chuck it out of bounds when pressured because he was holding back at ohio so his numbers suffered. Once he actually got paid millions to risk his body he did and he's been excellent.
Yeah i mean that's my problem with him. Yes, May was a great hire, excellent job Mr. Manuel. BUT, they had to call in Beilein to close it. If he continues working like that, bringing people together to get the job done, absolutely. He hasn't done that before though so it would be a change for the better.
Same with Harbaugh's renewal, Santa Ono had to step in to stop Manuel from messing it all up. So even though this is great, I need to see continued humility and teamwork -- otherwise it looks like those around him are doing his job for him instead of letting Michigan fail. And for that, he wouldn't need to stay in his role.
That said, I hope he proves me wrong. Keep it going, people absolutely can learn to get better at their jobs.
Taking him at his word, but if it wasn't true it should have been trivially easy for MLB to show the receipts that he was lying. AFAIK, they never accused him of throwing games.
Well, his main defense is that he never did anything short of trying his best to win games. I guess as a gambling addict in recovery, i empathize with the idea that he had a hard line on what he wouldn't sacrifice for gambling, even though he knew gambling was a vice and not a virtue.
I mean, these guys made Piazza look like a contact hitter and he's the greatest home run hitting catcher of all time, never took steroids.
Idk if this is fair, but i feel like bonds deserves nothing for being greedy. He was already well on his way to being the greatest hitter of all time, and he was also an elite defensive player, 3x national league MVP by the age of like 29. But that wasn't enough! He got jealous of like mark mcguire and jose canseco and started juicing to bump up his HR stat. Idk, to me that's a huge betrayal of sportsmanship.
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Wait but i thought we all complained about not passing enough even though we won the national championship on an undefeated season dont we all agree the coaches should have passed more????
It's way more relevant than op.
Shouldn't you be posting this in a norte dame blog?? We dont fucking care to hell with them.
Read more about this, seems like a huge get, he had a lot of offers!
Why do I feel like someone named Suggs can't be a bad defensive tackle?
Yes, they're looking ten years ahead. In ten years they will make a lot more money. They're not dumb they know exactly what they're doing.
Yes, exactly . The positions are more important on defense, on offense there's nothing stopping you from having a 7'0 player run the point if he has the ball handling skills.
On defense, you can't play someone at a position they can't guard, the offense will easily find the mismatch.
Who the fuck cares, he's not a coach anymore, like really you get pleasure out of hearing about this guy??
We won the fucking natty undefeated season and you're disappointed??? Like if we passed more we achieve what exactly?? Win the natty by more than 3 tds???
Like maybe you don't understand football as well as Harbaugh (a former nfl QB) and you overvalue passing?? Is that possible or sre you certain you understand run-pass balance better than Harbaugh??
They could be great run blockers from the flank!
We dont need top wide receivers we're a run first offense, we won the natty last year that way. Our new HC is our former OL coach.
Are we still gonna keep bitching about not giving enough targets to recruit elite receivers??
Sorry didn't mean to latch on to your comment but im still mad about getting negbanged every single time i wrote i dont care about passing more and then we won the national fucking championship playing like that and people still dont understand that running it so much is a feature not a bug.
He's a math major, that's neat!
Much bigger news is we signed Goldin
Our defense might be even better this season!
Blesséd be the name of the portal.
I mean i guess it's strange that it isn't obvious to everyone. Yes he didn't throw often, but his third down rating is excellent, and he was on national TV making great throws on huge game deciding plays.
I think it's more about blocking schemes, but idk not an expert at all. I think the nfl just does like a lot more guard pulling and maneuvers and stuff on the offensive line, while college teams tend to keep it simpler.
Yeah i love CJ as a player, but for the NFL his athleticism is average unfortunately and that tanks his draft status. (Apparently a 4.4 40 doesnt do anything for NFL scouts)
Still, I agree with you, I think he'll have a very long productive career as a WR2. Reminds me of donald driver, CJ is actually bigger than Driver, but yeah a good solid receiver that does everything well every play even if not elite in any one aspect of the position. Driver was a 7th round pick.
Howard was just straight up bad at roster construction XD. Like the average guy off the street would have a better idea of getting a good spread of players to play all 5 positions and complement each other's playstyle. Howard was just getting kids he got along with personally without concern for the fact we didnt have enough guards.
That's what she said
It's looking like it could be like Beilein's teams with good passers at every position playing beautifully orchestrated offense with a solid defense to back it up.
I'm guessing May's offense is probably different in the Xs and Os than Beilein's but if he shares that obsession with emphasis and good passing and fundamentals that would make me very happy.
With Howard it felt like he was going for 90s style isoball and besides the results, the style of play was not very enticing. And defense idk what they thought they were trying to achieve.
Is winning recruiting battles against ohio . . . good?
Just make a comment next time and take your handful of downvotes for saying something stupid before making a post and getting negbanged so hard you have to make a new account.
Kia forte, idk i just want a reliable car with good gas mileage. Rio is okay but just a little bit too small and low clearance for driving on Michigan roads.
Hope McCarthy ggets drafted as high as possible but klatt doesn't know shit about football, dont care he has to say about it
Orji cannot reliably make wide open throws. He's not the guy to carry the QB role in most games. There will be two or three games against teams with miserable defensive lines that Orji will be able to abuse, but most games Davis will be better.
Exactly! McCarthy is a complete QB, throws, runs, can do it all. And what was he asked to do 90% of the time? Take care of the football. Yes, some big third/fourth downs we needed him to take a shot and he succeeded, but the most important thing is to take care of the football and give the run game and defense a chance to win the game without QB heroics. Then, if you need it because the opponent os playing excellent, you tell the QB to make something happen.
Orji is not going to be that guy for us. It's either Davis or potentially Tuttle depending how he recovers from injury.
The first two throws were easy too and he just missed.
We had a coaching change, could have been smoother but idk not worried about it. Recruiting will catch up im sure. Im also sure some of those ohio recruits will recommit. Things tend to even out in recruiting, a huge early lead in recruiting doesn't mean much.
What? Our deep depth chart was a huge part of the championship formula last season!!
Yeah idk, like yes rose bowl win was great but we didn't play our best game at all and alabama couldn't snap the ball. It has to be 4/5 along eith the Washington game where we did play our best game but Washington just folded.
And then yeah it's fucking ohio fuck them I'll take 1-11 with a win over ohio every season.
Definitely ohio 2021.
At the same time, innate accuracy is something you kinda have or don't by the time you get to college.
Camp is about ironing out the high level details you didn't see in high school, not relearning how to throw an accurate ball.
And not to be a downer, but to me it sounds like Tuttle is still in pole position to be QB1 by the time September comes. We need a QB with accuracy and wisdom/poise above all else IMHO. Just doesn't sound like Orji will be better than Tuttle at winning football games, not that we couldn't win the conference with either perhaps.
We had two unused scholarships last season. We will also have unused scholarships next season regardless of how good a job May does recruiting.
We wont burn any scholarships, we're not getting 13 scholarship worthy players in one off season, it just aint happening. Hell we had two scholarship spots open last year.
What's so confusing about that?
Most of the roster last season wasn't good enough to deserve a scholarship, to be fair.
We'll see, just unsettling to worry the offensive line, the lynchpin of our last three seasons of success, taking a step back.
Yes.
Every year majority of fans worry about the passing game and every year the team shows they win with the power run game. I don't get it.
Only thing I'll say is that no QB in the draft is ready to start. There rarely ever are any QBs ready to start as rookies.
Scouts are all looking at which QBs have the best chance of growing into a great NFL QB. It's not so important who looks the best or is the best right now.
Difference is Stroud would chuck it out of bounds when pressured because he was holding back at ohio so his numbers suffered. Once he actually got paid millions to risk his body he did and he's been excellent.
Yeah i mean that's my problem with him. Yes, May was a great hire, excellent job Mr. Manuel. BUT, they had to call in Beilein to close it. If he continues working like that, bringing people together to get the job done, absolutely. He hasn't done that before though so it would be a change for the better.
Same with Harbaugh's renewal, Santa Ono had to step in to stop Manuel from messing it all up. So even though this is great, I need to see continued humility and teamwork -- otherwise it looks like those around him are doing his job for him instead of letting Michigan fail. And for that, he wouldn't need to stay in his role.
That said, I hope he proves me wrong. Keep it going, people absolutely can learn to get better at their jobs.
Not true. I wanted to and always got downvoted to hell for it here.
That's been the case for like 100 years though at Michigan. Even when the football team was bad, we always are like top 10 for the director's cup.
I mean, isn't insider trading considered immoral if not outright illegal in many cases??
Taking him at his word, but if it wasn't true it should have been trivially easy for MLB to show the receipts that he was lying. AFAIK, they never accused him of throwing games.
Well, his main defense is that he never did anything short of trying his best to win games. I guess as a gambling addict in recovery, i empathize with the idea that he had a hard line on what he wouldn't sacrifice for gambling, even though he knew gambling was a vice and not a virtue.
I mean, these guys made Piazza look like a contact hitter and he's the greatest home run hitting catcher of all time, never took steroids.
Idk if this is fair, but i feel like bonds deserves nothing for being greedy. He was already well on his way to being the greatest hitter of all time, and he was also an elite defensive player, 3x national league MVP by the age of like 29. But that wasn't enough! He got jealous of like mark mcguire and jose canseco and started juicing to bump up his HR stat. Idk, to me that's a huge betrayal of sportsmanship.
I mean, the whole basis of defending pete rose is the understanding that he never threw any games or bet against his own team.
I mean people do grow and change. Doesn't change the fact that he has been a shitty AD for years, but the Dusty May hiring is excellent.