They are going to drive fans away. Not every fan for every game, but I'm way less likely to catch the November or December Miami Dolphins game if I have to pay for it on a second, third or 4th streaming service.
Lets not forget that LeSean McCoy was in his prime. He hated LeSean McCoy and blew up the team to spite him.
DeSean was let go off of allegations. If you were following at the time, Chip Kelly thought he was in a gang. Which would be difficult and uncessary considering DeSean was in the NFL.
The story behind their shift to a entertainment team vs. a baseball team is fascinating. The owners were down to their last dollars and were facing the inability to make payroll. They pivoted to save themselves and their employees and it paid off big time.
Beilein had a rough stretch in there (mostly due to major injuries to Walton and LeVert). They missed the tournament at 16-16 finishing 9th in the conference in 2014-2015. I think most people let that slide.
The next year they had a down February and backed into the tournament at 8th in the conference. Barely survived against Tulsa and lost to ND in the first round. That was a let down. So there were some people being vocal then.
But this was absolutely not an every December thing.
I didn't watch enough of last year's disaster to know enough, but is Nimari Burnett better than Jones. I understand it isn't a given that Burnett is back.
Also Terrance Williams - he had played well in 2023 and 2022. Is there a chance we comes back to elevate the PF position?
There isn’t much in the portal for QBs anymore. And it is likely that someone on the roster is the best option among what’s available.
The spring portal could bring someone but then that person has missed spring ball and would have to be a sure fire signee. Otherwise it could be damaging to morale to have a late QB swap.
Portal will likely be used to shore up depth at CB/safety/WR and in the trenches.
One thing I forgot to add: Kenneth Grant reiterated that the team is cohesive and they want to stay together. Didn't sound like he or others are going to be swayed by external NIL.
So many epic moments between the Wings and Avs. I was a Detroit Tigers game the night the Wings scored something like 7 goals against the Avs in the playoffs. This was after the big fights in the 90s. Roy was showboating making a stop on a slap shot and held his glove up to rub it in and he dropped the puck and it went into the net. Everyone was watching the game on the Tigers jumbotron. The news crews were interviewing fans following the game on their portable radios.
Of course, Roy never ends up in Colorado unless he lets up those 9 goals when he was with Montreal. If memory serves, the coach was pissed at him and left him in. He then refused to play for them again.
His time at Michigan was rough at the end, but he is a good dude and just couldn't get it done. Would like to see him brought back to an event one day to get his applause as he deserves.
Yes, and the basketball issues from 1992 are the exact reason why they won't Wade into Will Wade territory.
I don't think this makes me in an ivory tower. I'm not the administration. I'm not saying I agree, or disagree. I am saying that you can talk about Bruce Pearl all day long - its not likely going to happen.
Valid point for sure. I guess if money is the main indicator, Michigan should keep Warde Manuel forever. Revenue has never been higher with TV deals and National Championship bump should only increase that.
Every time there is a coaching vacancy everyone on the internet throws out names that have no cultural fit at Michigan. These names include but are not limited to: Urban Meyer, Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Will Wade and Bruce Pearl.
I don't think any coach with an NCAA violation in the past will get serious consideration from the school.
This is why we need a "serious replies only" label. Someone makes a legit topic to help clean the board up and the first comment is something stupid. The real content gets buried.
Scott Drew at Baylor is interesting only because the Big 12 is not part of the Big Ten/SEC that could breakaway very soon. I know most the focus is on football, but this impacts hoops as well.
If Michigan was in contention, we would have sold that place out with our without students. It comes to down to having to put a quality product on the court.
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They are going to drive fans away. Not every fan for every game, but I'm way less likely to catch the November or December Miami Dolphins game if I have to pay for it on a second, third or 4th streaming service.
I’m in my 30s and play with my 30 and 40 year old friends and sometimes the kids. It’s fun as hell. Great game
Lets not forget that LeSean McCoy was in his prime. He hated LeSean McCoy and blew up the team to spite him.
DeSean was let go off of allegations. If you were following at the time, Chip Kelly thought he was in a gang. Which would be difficult and uncessary considering DeSean was in the NFL.
I'd be fine if we lit that long as match in November.
Great news. Looking forward to everyone complaining about NIL still even though we just won a natty and then landed a major portal class in hoops.
What is the age statement? I imagine he doesn't have his own distillery. Which company is making it?
The story behind their shift to a entertainment team vs. a baseball team is fascinating. The owners were down to their last dollars and were facing the inability to make payroll. They pivoted to save themselves and their employees and it paid off big time.
Are we only waiting on Jace now?
This should leave 1 spot open that was created when George Washington crossed the Delaware River again. Maybe 2 if Jace doesn't return?
Or is that spot already taken by Vlad?
This is revisionist history.
Beilein had a rough stretch in there (mostly due to major injuries to Walton and LeVert). They missed the tournament at 16-16 finishing 9th in the conference in 2014-2015. I think most people let that slide.
The next year they had a down February and backed into the tournament at 8th in the conference. Barely survived against Tulsa and lost to ND in the first round. That was a let down. So there were some people being vocal then.
But this was absolutely not an every December thing.
I didn't watch enough of last year's disaster to know enough, but is Nimari Burnett better than Jones. I understand it isn't a given that Burnett is back.
Also Terrance Williams - he had played well in 2023 and 2022. Is there a chance we comes back to elevate the PF position?
Just wait until the next thread on Kadyn Proctor being in the portal!
Starting to think T-Will could have a spot as our starting 4 again with a good surrounding cast. Something like
PG Tre Donaldson
SG Johnell Davis
SF Kevin Durant
PF Terrance Williams
C Vlad Goldin
What do you do?
You honor his commitment and his scholarship.
My wife: the closer to Ohio the better.
Me: no one has ever said that before.
I always thought Coach Cal was greasy but lately, I've started to change my tune.
He is very upfront in what he's trying to do. Get the best recruits and send them to the NBA after one year. And he does it well.
Unfortunately, that doesn't always mean winning. And we've seen coaches with future NBA stars get flustered (even in the big 10 with Howard and Izzo).
2015 I think. What was the team like then? A bit different.
There isn’t much in the portal for QBs anymore. And it is likely that someone on the roster is the best option among what’s available.
The spring portal could bring someone but then that person has missed spring ball and would have to be a sure fire signee. Otherwise it could be damaging to morale to have a late QB swap.
Portal will likely be used to shore up depth at CB/safety/WR and in the trenches.
I could see Michigan signing 6-8 role players.
In the 2022 tournament, Williams had 9 points and 3 rebounds in 14 minutes against Tennessee.
He had two massive put backs with under 4 minutes to go to help Michigan close.
We don't win without him.
One thing I forgot to add: Kenneth Grant reiterated that the team is cohesive and they want to stay together. Didn't sound like he or others are going to be swayed by external NIL.
George Washington. You know his teeth were made of wool.
Wow! You are almost as old as Igor Larionov was when he retired from the Wings.
So many epic moments between the Wings and Avs. I was a Detroit Tigers game the night the Wings scored something like 7 goals against the Avs in the playoffs. This was after the big fights in the 90s. Roy was showboating making a stop on a slap shot and held his glove up to rub it in and he dropped the puck and it went into the net. Everyone was watching the game on the Tigers jumbotron. The news crews were interviewing fans following the game on their portable radios.
Of course, Roy never ends up in Colorado unless he lets up those 9 goals when he was with Montreal. If memory serves, the coach was pissed at him and left him in. He then refused to play for them again.
Same goes for…
I agree.
Same goes for Brady Hoke.
His time at Michigan was rough at the end, but he is a good dude and just couldn't get it done. Would like to see him brought back to an event one day to get his applause as he deserves.
This might actually be a detriment in some ways. If he has one year left, has to make it count and not rebuild.
On the other hand, Michigan gets him playing against higher-caliber talent each night and can help him with more connections in the NBA.
Really depends on how the coach views the situation.
Yes, and the basketball issues from 1992 are the exact reason why they won't Wade into Will Wade territory.
I don't think this makes me in an ivory tower. I'm not the administration. I'm not saying I agree, or disagree. I am saying that you can talk about Bruce Pearl all day long - its not likely going to happen.
Valid point for sure. I guess if money is the main indicator, Michigan should keep Warde Manuel forever. Revenue has never been higher with TV deals and National Championship bump should only increase that.
I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not.
Every time there is a coaching vacancy everyone on the internet throws out names that have no cultural fit at Michigan. These names include but are not limited to: Urban Meyer, Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Will Wade and Bruce Pearl.
I don't think any coach with an NCAA violation in the past will get serious consideration from the school.
Couldn't agree more.
Edwards is not a first rounder
This. Look at that consistency. Took medved's team and won 7 more games 25+ wins in 4 straight years. THIS GUY FUCKS.
Am I reading this correctly that he has never won an NCAA Tournament game?
I didn’t say to hire him. I said he should be considered. Also many of the data points you threw out are incorrect. But you do you.
Can't be easy to recruit Nebraska. With more resources and NIL, Hoiberg would have a higher ceiling at Michigan.
This is why we need a "serious replies only" label. Someone makes a legit topic to help clean the board up and the first comment is something stupid. The real content gets buried.
Kyle Smith has never been to an NCAA tournament.
I'm not staying up to watch this.
Scott Drew at Baylor is interesting only because the Big 12 is not part of the Big Ten/SEC that could breakaway very soon. I know most the focus is on football, but this impacts hoops as well.
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just like football season
Every week was a Harbaugh update "no one knows anything".
Cool, cool, why are you here?
Jon Bacon updates are always "no update here"
That's a bummer, but he will bounce back and either get a different HC gig or be a top defensive coach at a top P5 school.
In fact, I can think of one P5 school that needs to be better on defense next year to save the head coach's job (if HC even makes it that long)
yah its garbage on mobile
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"...I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever..."
I'm building my team for modern basketball with 4/5 out that can shoot and a coach that can get the most out of them. Here we go.
Center - Mo Wagner
Power Forward - Chris Webber
Small Forward - Glen Rice
Shooting Guard - Jalen Rose
Point Guard - Trey Burke
Coach - Jon Beilein
Bench:
Guard: Nik Stauskus
Guard: Rumneal Robinson
Guard: Tim Hardaway Jr.
Forward: Glen Robinson Jr.
Forward: Franz Wagner
Center: Juwan Howard
Center: Maurice Taylor
He…
Get rid of Juwan now.
He has anger issues. If this was an isolated incident then NBD, but he was on a zero tolerance policy after Wisconsin. This is too much.
The university has known about this for 3 months and did NOTHING.
Why is the school protecting a BAD coach?
This is the impact of having a bad team.
If Michigan was in contention, we would have sold that place out with our without students. It comes to down to having to put a quality product on the court.
Saban wants to cap player income?
This is exactly what the Supreme Court has decided against.
We don't need an old millionaire white man telling young kids how much they can make.
Let the market dictate what they can earn.
A bummer that Sabb didn't wait for the coaching staff to find him a full-time role on defense through some switching. But next man up.
Time to hit the portal back for a few dudes and reload for 2024.
According to Wiki, Jean-Mary is Michigan's LB coach, but only because its been that long since someone updated his wiki.
this is still somehow better than 90% of posts on this board.